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Shinjyo optioned to minor league
FYI ... Before the second game of the Mets - Yankees double header, the Mets optioned outfielder Tsuyoshi Shinjo to Triple-A Norfolk.
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Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Jun 29, 2003 10:13 PM ]

Despite his defensive ability, if he can't hit .200, he can't stay in the Major Leagues.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: JenWei | Posted: Jul 1, 2003 4:38 PM ]

I am a Shinjyo fan. I hope that Shinjyo can return to the Mets when he gets good results in the minor league! Shinjyo plays solid in defensive this year, but his batting has been so "unlucky" this year!
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Toyota | Posted: Jul 2, 2003 3:57 PM ]

Wow, I would like to see him come back to Hanshin. Does he has a chance in the outfield of Tigers?
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: torakichi | Posted: Jul 3, 2003 9:51 AM | HT Fan ]

Well, he'd have to be performing spectacularly. At present, all three of our outfielders (Hiyama, RF; Akahoshi, CF; Kanemoto, LF) are hitting comfortably over .300. Akahoshi is Japan's top base stealer for the third season in a row, and Kanemoto is in the Ce League top 10 for stealing. Not to mention Hamanaka (RF) who's out injured at the moment, but who is also averaging .300 or so.

That, coupled with Shinjo's penchant for striking out (when he was with the Hanshin Tigers, at least) would make it quite hard for him.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Louis B. Mayer | Posted: Aug 1, 2003 8:26 AM ]

Word in New York is that he will return to Japan after the season's over and try to be a movie star.

While a solid defensive player, he couldn't hit once pitchers figured him out. He was only an average hitter in Japan, I understand.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Jen Wei | Posted: Aug 3, 2003 2:36 PM ]

But Shinjyo now plays solid in the Minor League.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: no | Posted: Aug 8, 2003 4:59 PM ]

Shinjo was 4-ban for Hanshin. He should go home to replace Hamanaka now.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: torakichi | Posted: Aug 8, 2003 8:00 PM | HT Fan ]

Hiyama's taking a few days off, too, to get over last night's back strain, so that's two 4-bans out for the Tigers.

Having said that, however, I'd say Shinjo would have a hard time getting back into the Tigers' line-up. I mean, we Tiger fans loved him and all, but we're doing just fine, thanks (at the moment, anyway. Who knows what's gonna happen in the remainder of the season).
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Jen Wei | Posted: Aug 9, 2003 12:07 AM ]

I am a Shinjo fan. I know he still can regain his power!
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Aug 9, 2003 8:48 PM ]

Regain his power? Kind of late for that. He better try a new career - Movie Star. Most of his fans seem to be women who like his looks, not his ability to hit the ball.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Jen Wei | Posted: Aug 9, 2003 11:41 PM ]

But he has been playing profesional baseball for 13 years now, and he is already 32. So I don't think that he can change careers to be a movie star.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Aug 11, 2003 9:20 PM ]

I am not sure about Japan, but in the U.S. several atheletes have become actors after their sports career ended. Jim Brown (greatest running back in football) is one, and OJ Simpson is another.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Grey Davis | Posted: Aug 14, 2003 8:44 AM ]

Well, if he can't become a movie star, then maybe he can run for Governor of California!
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Suraj Rupani | Posted: Aug 11, 2003 6:10 PM ]

Just because Shinjo went to the MLB and had a good, not great, year before fleeing, people seem to think he was the Babe Ruth of Japan before he left.

He was a mediocre hitter who played great defense. Plain and simple. His OPS was in the mid-.700s and his OBP was around .300 every year, except in 2000, when he had a OPS of .810-ish. Sure, he played half his games in Koshien, which is more of a pitcher's park, but that doesn't change the fact that he couldn't get on base at even a .300 clip consistently.

If Shinjyo ever makes it back here, I hope it's not to Hanshin. If he ends up in the clean-up for Hanshin I may have to light myself on fire.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Frank | Posted: Aug 14, 2003 9:15 AM ]

I met Shinjo a few weeks ago when Norfolk came to town. Yes, every Japanese fan (about 100 of them, young, old, male, female, etc.) treated him like a superstar. You wouldn't believe how hard I had to try just to get through for an autograph.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Jen Wei | Posted: Aug 15, 2003 4:20 PM ]

Because Shinjo is really very famous in Japan and they call him "Prince of Baseball."
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Aug 16, 2003 2:43 AM ]

Well, his future in MLB is almost a zero. Most likely he will end up back in Japan like Irabu.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: George Steinbrennernot | Posted: Aug 16, 2003 8:05 AM ]

Here's how the Prince of Baseball is doing as of today with the Norfolk Tides (Mets AAA Farm Team):

Player G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG
Shinjo 24 77 9 25 4 2 2 4 7 11 0 1 .325

Very good numbers, but don't I know if he will be back with the Mets next season. The roster expands in a few weeks and maybe he'll be called up, but I think the Mets will want to give some of their youngsters a look.

Floyd goes down for surgery in a couple of weeks, so maybe The Price will get the nod.

He will need a strong spring training to stick IMHO.

Shinjo Memories
[ Author: torakichi | Posted: Aug 23, 2003 12:18 PM | HT Fan ]

Slightly off topic.

Kobe-based Sun TV often shows old Hanshin games to fill in dead air time. Last night it was a 1994 game between the Tigers and the Swallows. The Swallows were leading in the 12th, but who should come to the plate and save the day with a sayonara grand-slam? Good-old Shinjo. We sure loved him back in his pre-MLB days.

It was an interesting program to watch: it sort of reminded me that Hanshin has drawn far and wide to find good players and staff (esp. this season). In this game, Nomura-kantoku was the opposition's manager, and Yakult's catcher was current Hanshin no. 27, Noguchi (with a sort of Kim Jong-Il coiffeure). Tom O'Malley was playing, rather than coaching, for the Tigers, and Hiroshi "God of Pinch Hitters" Yagi and Yutaka Wada (now a Hanshin batting coach) looked like spring chickens.

Very interesting to watch; hope you'll excuse my digression.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: George Steinbrennernot | Posted: Aug 30, 2003 9:19 AM ]

ERRATA: That was from the NY Daily News.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: George Steinbrennernot | Posted: Aug 30, 2003 11:37 PM ]

Yesaterday's New York Daily News indicated that Shinjo-san was likely done with the Mets and might not be called up. His agent said that Shinjo-san was fine with that and that he expected to play in MLB somewhere else next year.

Shinjo-san was painted as a prince by saying that the Mets should give the youngsters in the farm system a chance to play in September for the Mets. He says he completely understands.

Shinjo-san needs to play regularly if he is to put up decent numbers. I'm sure he can find a spot if he wants. He might be better off back in Japan, to see if his MLB experience added anything to his game, plus the chance to play regularly in more familiar surroundings. Doesn't he have a wife in Japan who is a newscaster?
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: CFiJ | Posted: Aug 31, 2003 5:49 PM ]

Doesn't he have a wife in Japan who is a newscaster?

Nope. Ichiro and Ishii have the newscaster wives. Shinjo's wife was a model/commercial actress.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: UMASS | Posted: Sep 1, 2003 10:57 AM ]

- Nope. Ichiro and Ishii have the newscaster wives. Shinjo's wife was a model/commercial actress.

Did their wifes accompany with them there? How about Daimajin, Matsui? Nomo? Is Hasegawa married to an American?
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: George Steinbrennernot | Posted: Sep 1, 2003 11:39 PM ]

Hey, Shinjo-san and his wife can be the next Tracy/Hepburn, Affleck and J. Lo!

Shinjo-san's wife stayed in Japan. I don't know about the other guys'. In MLB, often the players families live far away from their current team, so it's not frequent that the wives travel with their husbands. In the case of the Japanese players, the distance is just greater and the time less frequent, especially if their spouses have high profile jobs.
Re: Shinjyo optioned to minor league
[ Author: Guest: Gary Garland | Posted: Sep 5, 2003 2:39 PM ]

Shinjo's wife has been over to the States during the season. I don't know if those were long-term stays or visits.

Sasaki's wife (aren't they divorced yet?) Kaori stays in Japan. There had been reports when he first came to the Mariners that he wanted to live here after his career was over, but he still spends most of his off-season time in Japan. Haseagwa was recently quoted as hinting that Sasaki will live in Japan after he retires.

Hasegawa and his wife live in the U.S full time. Ichiro and wife (whose name slips my mind at the moment) split their time between their condo here and Japan. Kazuhisa Ishii's wife lives in Japan full time. Her and son Kanta come over for occasional visits.

Incidentally, in case anyone was wondering, there is a rumor that Kazuo Matsui's wife, Mio, has been taking English lessons. They have a small daughter, Haruna.
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