Nohmi fails to pull it off
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Re: Nohmi fails to pull it off
[ Author: mijow | Posted: Mar 9, 2008 6:59 PM
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Good points for the Tigers were Hirano - two at bats, two hits (why was he swapped?)
Uh, possibly because this is still spring training?
Anyway I wouldn't place too much importance on one defeat. Do you have any idea how Nohmi looked on the mound? Did he look comfortable enough? What was his command like? Was he overthrowing? Could he have been trying out new pitches? Those are the sorts of things that are important at this stage in the year, not whether they win or not. IMHO.
But they're good summaries, Christopher - keep it up. I don't suppose you could add line scores? Those would really help.
Uh, possibly because this is still spring training?
Anyway I wouldn't place too much importance on one defeat. Do you have any idea how Nohmi looked on the mound? Did he look comfortable enough? What was his command like? Was he overthrowing? Could he have been trying out new pitches? Those are the sorts of things that are important at this stage in the year, not whether they win or not. IMHO.
But they're good summaries, Christopher - keep it up. I don't suppose you could add line scores? Those would really help.
Re: Nohmi fails to pull it off
[ Author: Christopher | Posted: Mar 9, 2008 7:52 PM
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You're right about not placing too much on one defeat but Nohmi is not starting well. There is also his grand slam against Orix in February. So far he has given up 9 runs in two appearances. His three innings took 61 pitches which suggests some control problems. I am hoping he can overcome his problems because as I mentioned I like him as a pitcher.
With regard to line scores I'll see what I can do.
With regard to line scores I'll see what I can do.
Re: Nohmi fails to pull it off
[ Author: mijow | Posted: Mar 9, 2008 10:02 PM
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Right - 61 pitches is not good, unless the player is able to work his way out of some jams, which would make the outing a useful one. In my view even giving up runs (or grand slams) is not bad in itself, however frustrating it is for the fans. The idea is to concentrate on getting ready for the season and work out why the runs were given up. Anyway, I'm not going to say any more, except to wish Nohmi all the best in preparing for the season. The people at Osaka Gas are all rooting for him.
Re: Nohmi fails to pull it off
[ Author: westbaystars | Posted: Mar 10, 2008 12:10 AM
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Didn't Kubota look awful in open-sen last season?
And I agree, the reason for the swap was most likely to see others get in the game. All the teams are playing like ni-gun games often go, with lots of substitutes just to give everyone a try in an actual game situation. I wouldn't read too much into it. Pick up a Daily Sports and check the box scores out for other teams. (It does cover other teams than the Tigers, right?) Except for Lotte, pretty much all of the teams have a minimum of 15 players in the lineups - not counting pitchers.
And I agree, the reason for the swap was most likely to see others get in the game. All the teams are playing like ni-gun games often go, with lots of substitutes just to give everyone a try in an actual game situation. I wouldn't read too much into it. Pick up a Daily Sports and check the box scores out for other teams. (It does cover other teams than the Tigers, right?) Except for Lotte, pretty much all of the teams have a minimum of 15 players in the lineups - not counting pitchers.
Re: Nohmi fails to pull it off
[ Author: Christopher | Posted: Mar 10, 2008 6:55 PM
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I was actually thinking if a player is hot why not let him run?
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1. Akahoshi (Centre)
2. Hirano (Second)
3. Ford (Right)
4. Arai (First)
5. Imaoka (Third)
6. Toritani (Short)
7. Hiyama (DH)
8. Noguchi (Catcher)
9. Shoda (Left)
Starting pitcher was Iwata
For Rakuten
1. N Watanabe (Short)
2. Takasu (Second)
3. Kusano (DH)
4. Fernandez (First)
5. Ohiro (Third)
6. Rick (Left)
7. Teppi (Right)
8. Shima (Catcher)
9. Hijirisawa (Centre)
Starting pitcher was Tanaka
Iwata started nicely but then deteriorated and rode his luck. Tanaka was nice for three innings and then got tired. Iwata's first innings was good then he gave away hits in the second and third coupled with walks meant he had to get out of first and second situations. Tanaka gave away one hit in the first three innings with no walks - very nice pitching.
In the fourth Iwata's luck ran out - Ohiro reached first on a foul ball and then second on a pass ball. He made third on a hit and then got home on a Teppi sacrifice fly 1-0 to Rakuten. However, Tigers responded immediately, Hirano hit but was thrown out trying to do too much on a wild pitch. However, Ford also hit and then Arai slammed a home run to put Tigers up 2-1.
This situation continued into the fifth when Nohmi replaced Iwata. His first innings was OK and Tanaka was obviously tiring but still had enough to keep the score down. Nohmi though gave up two runs in the sixth. Kusano hit and the very next batter Fernandez hit a two base which left Rakuten with runners on second and third with no outs. One out later Rick hit a two base shot which drove both runners home 3-2 Rakuten. However, Nohmi had save the best (from Rakuten's point of view) for the seventh.
Nohmi gave up a two base hit to Takasu and then walked Shiokawa (replacement third). With bases 3 and 1 occupied he then gave up a home run to Ohiro (moved to first). 6-2 Rakuten. Rakuten's relief pitchers, Yoshizaki and K Watanabe kept Tigers scoreless and they even managed to add another run in the ninth off Ishikawa.
Tigers response in the ninth was two runs. A nice try but just not enough Fujimoto and Akahoshi drove in these two runs but the score still ended up 7-4 to Rakuten. Good points for the Tigers were Hirano - two at bats, two hits (why was he swapped?) and Arai. There are serious doubts about using Nohmi in the first team and really one must ask whether he is suited for the Tigers first team.