September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
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Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest: JJ | Posted: Sep 25, 2010 12:30 AM
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> Nagodo is probably the most soulless and tedious
> place to watch basebal. A pervading air of stagnation
> and total lack of any redeeming features hangs over
> the stadium. It's a provincial backwater of the first
> order - no wonder Tigers hate playing there.
>
Don't mince your words, Christopher!! Sour grapes?
I've never been there, so I can't comment. Is it any more soulless than any other dome?
Well done, MAAAAton!! Nice batting - proper pro.
> place to watch basebal. A pervading air of stagnation
> and total lack of any redeeming features hangs over
> the stadium. It's a provincial backwater of the first
> order - no wonder Tigers hate playing there.
>
Don't mince your words, Christopher!! Sour grapes?
I've never been there, so I can't comment. Is it any more soulless than any other dome?
Well done, MAAAAton!! Nice batting - proper pro.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Christopher | Posted: Sep 25, 2010 10:12 AM
| HAN Fan
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Actually Nagoya itself is one of the ugliest and most boing (architecturally) places in Japan - if not the ugliest. There is actually a lot of competition for this title. The dome itself is not spectacular or even interesting - it just is. You watch a tight or what would be an exciting game in any other stadium and you find it difficult to get up any enthusiasm. To my mind the best dome in Japan is Gomido (Tokyo Dome) which is honestly a pleasant environment. Others think that Sapporo Dome is very nice. Going back to Nagoya, the food is excellent and interesting probably to compensate for the truely ugly environment. The food inside Nagodo is not inspriing though - like Hamasta one should eat outside.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Sep 28, 2010 12:13 AM
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The Tokyo Dome is terrible. It reminds me of the old Metrodome which was rightly demolished. Backward and outdated like all domes however I will say that watching a game in the Sapporo dome doesn't actually feel like a typical dome so it's the lesser evil as far as domes go. Really friendly crowds in Sapporo too. Sitting in the naiya and rooting for the away team just rouses a lot of good banter.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest: N26 | Posted: Sep 26, 2010 10:03 PM
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I do not understand how you can say Tokyo Dome is a nice environment. It is in the tackiest place of all places I have been to in entire Japan ( greater Tokyo area) surrounded by an amusement park. Suidobashi where the Tokyo Dome City is, is in a bland soul less business district, with it's share of tacky otaku shops that you find in Akiba. In other words, it's creepy. The Dome itself, is horrible with nazi like security who don't allow you to take in beers into the stadium. The entire stadium and the area has a Disneyland feel to it due to the amusement park. It's kicth beyond belief.
My list of stadiums. Because I am biased. I would have to rank.
1, Chiba
2 Yokohama
3 Jingu
4 Tokyo Dome
5 Seibu Dome.
Those are the only stadiums I have been to.
In any case. Good hitting. Maaaton. Someone told me he is a Mormon. In a special Christian sect. Is this true? Not that it matters all too much but just curious.
My list of stadiums. Because I am biased. I would have to rank.
1, Chiba
2 Yokohama
3 Jingu
4 Tokyo Dome
5 Seibu Dome.
Those are the only stadiums I have been to.
In any case. Good hitting. Maaaton. Someone told me he is a Mormon. In a special Christian sect. Is this true? Not that it matters all too much but just curious.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Christopher | Posted: Sep 27, 2010 11:13 AM
| HAN Fan
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I hadn't heard he was a Mormon but did know he was pretty devout.
Koshien doesn't allow you to take beers into the stadium either on the reasonable grounds that you won't be tempted to throw them at underperforming or opposition players. I also wouldn't rate Yokohama very high at all, in fact the opposite - I can't comment on Chiba as I have never been but Jingu is a wonderful stadium. Tokyo Dome is also great for hayfever sufferers (it has a slight overpressure) and the food is good. The stadium is clean and its only flaw to my mind is that it doesn't allow jettos.
Koshien doesn't allow you to take beers into the stadium either on the reasonable grounds that you won't be tempted to throw them at underperforming or opposition players. I also wouldn't rate Yokohama very high at all, in fact the opposite - I can't comment on Chiba as I have never been but Jingu is a wonderful stadium. Tokyo Dome is also great for hayfever sufferers (it has a slight overpressure) and the food is good. The stadium is clean and its only flaw to my mind is that it doesn't allow jettos.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest: gotigersredsox | Posted: Sep 27, 2010 1:27 PM
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You can take beers into Koshien, you just have to pour them into a paper cup first. Surprisingly this policy only started about 3 seasons ago. It's a safety issue, whereas in MLB stadiums it's more of a greed issue.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest: Ross Hammontree | Posted: Sep 28, 2010 8:41 AM
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Matt Murton is not a Mormon, he is a Christian.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest: gotigersredsox | Posted: Sep 28, 2010 11:37 AM
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N26, I recommend a trip to the new stadium in Hiroshima. Despite having such a horrible name, it quickly shot into my top 3 stadiums.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Guest: N26 | Posted: Sep 29, 2010 8:03 AM
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gotigersredsox
Hiroshima does look like a quality stadium. If I get a chance to go there, I am pretty sure it'll be the best stadium I have ever been to. I need to go to Koshien too. I am sure both the stadiums in western Japan beats all stadiums hands down in the greater Tokyo area.
In Tokyo Dome, they like Koshien pour the beers into paper cups when you go in. In Jingu the security is very relaxed about you taking in beers. You are not supposed to but if you take one or two beers inside, they'll let you do that.
Chiba is freezing cold in April. It's right by the ocean so you get freezing wind. In the summer time you get the sea breeze so it cools you down making it an excellent place to watch baseball in summer. Not April. The 2nd deck is non reserved, so you can get cheap tickets and sit behind home plate on the second deck. Chiba Marines also tries to promote their team. There is a nice atmosphere outside the stadium with various events, different types of food stands. Unlike Yokohama or Jingu where there is hardly any activity outside the stadium.
Hiroshima does look like a quality stadium. If I get a chance to go there, I am pretty sure it'll be the best stadium I have ever been to. I need to go to Koshien too. I am sure both the stadiums in western Japan beats all stadiums hands down in the greater Tokyo area.
In Tokyo Dome, they like Koshien pour the beers into paper cups when you go in. In Jingu the security is very relaxed about you taking in beers. You are not supposed to but if you take one or two beers inside, they'll let you do that.
Chiba is freezing cold in April. It's right by the ocean so you get freezing wind. In the summer time you get the sea breeze so it cools you down making it an excellent place to watch baseball in summer. Not April. The 2nd deck is non reserved, so you can get cheap tickets and sit behind home plate on the second deck. Chiba Marines also tries to promote their team. There is a nice atmosphere outside the stadium with various events, different types of food stands. Unlike Yokohama or Jingu where there is hardly any activity outside the stadium.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: Christopher | Posted: Sep 29, 2010 10:07 AM
| HAN Fan
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Jingu you need to approach from the Gaienmae metro station exit. There are many stalls selling food and supporters goods on match days. The local restaurants also have stalls set up to exploit the passing traffic and you can buy some very nice sausages on the way. There is a Tigers store on the second floor of the building next to Chichibunomiya Stadium as well. Outside Jingu itself you have several souvenir stalls which sell team goods (mostly Tigers it must be admitted). The other approach is through a nice green area but they don't allow stalls to set up along that approach.
Re: September 23rd Nohmi v Yoshimi - Murton hits 200
[ Author: gotigersredsox | Posted: Sep 29, 2010 3:14 PM
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N26, I'm sure you'll enjoy ZoomZoom. What I like best about it is the open concourse--you can walk around the whole stadium and still see the game. With this great new park, now I just wish the organization could pay their players enough to put a winning team on the field.
Koshien gets by on atmosphere. The seats are tiny, the concessions are pretty average, but with almost 50,000 crazy Tigers fans the atmosphere is pretty electric.
With regards to bringing food/drinks into stadiums, I read somewhere that outside food isn't allowed into Kleenex Stadium in Miyagi. Is that true?
Koshien gets by on atmosphere. The seats are tiny, the concessions are pretty average, but with almost 50,000 crazy Tigers fans the atmosphere is pretty electric.
With regards to bringing food/drinks into stadiums, I read somewhere that outside food isn't allowed into Kleenex Stadium in Miyagi. Is that true?
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Starting lineups
Tigers
1. Murton (Left)
2. Hirano (Right)
3. Toritani (Short)
4. Arai (Third)
5. Brazell (First)
6. Johjima (Catcher)
7. Saka (Second)
8. Shunsuke Fujikawa (Centre)
9. Nohmi (Pitcher)
Dragons
1. Araki (Short)
2. Hidenori (Centre)
3. Morino (Third)
4. Wada (Left)
5. Koike (First)
6. N. Donoue (Second)
7. Fujii (Right)
8. Oda (Catcher)
9. Yoshimi (Pitcher)
Yoshimi would be refreshingly shaky in the first innings. He got Murton but then walked Hirano. Toritani grounded out but this took Hirano to second. Then Arai walked and then Brazell in an unusual show of restraint from him also walked to load the bases. Johjima hit nicely to left bringing home two runners 2-0 Tigers, runners on first and second. Saka managed to fly out but Tigers had managed a good start. Nohmi managed well in his first innings. Morino managed to hit but Wada lined out straight to Arai to end the innings. Tigers second was quiet as the bottom of the order failed to do anything and Murton also did not seem to be able to hit. Nohmi made sure that the Dragons second was also quiet - he was pitching very nicely. In Tigers third Toritani seized hold of a pitch and brutally put it into left centre for a three base hit. Arai was next and he scooped one up. This looked a bit like a miscue which would result in a centre fly which is exactly what happened but with a runner on third was a very useful sacrifice fly 3-0 Tigers. Brazell struck out swinging but Tigers had established a very comfortable lead. It was rendered even more comfortable as Nohmi once again retired the batters he faced in order.
Tigers fourth turned out to be another quiet innings. So far Tigers had dominated the match and Nohmi was establishing a measure of mental dominance which Kubo had not been able to achieve even though Kubo pitched just as well. Dragons tried to hit back and were helped by a bit of luck. Hidenori led off and hit towards Nohmi - the ball hit his foot and cannoned off into right for a safe hit. Morino flew out to Arai but Wada managed to hit into left - another piece of luck. Nohmi then induced Koike to fly out in foul ground and struck out N. Donoue in a way that made him look a bit of a fool. Tigers fifth started with Nohmi striking out looking but Murton hit nicely to centre - No. 199. Hirano hit to second but an excellent dive by N. Donoue prevented him from getting on base. Murton stole second successfully amd then Toritani walked. It was up to Arai who got bundled up and flew out to right to end the innings. Nohimi had no trouble with the bottom of Dragons order in the fifth ending by striking Yoshimi out swinging. Tigers sixth was a bit of a farce. Brazell led the innings off with a nice two base hit. Mayumi then signalled that Johjima should bunt - the sheer stupidity of the move beggars belief. Incidently, Jim Allen's 'Hot Corner' in today's Daily Yomiuri is very good on the subject of bunts. Anyway, Johjima bunted and Yoshimi was able to pick up and throw to third where Morino had plenty of time to tag Brazell. Brazell doesn't have the speed to steal or to be bunted for the most part. It was a totally unnecessary move. Kanemoto (pinch hitter) followed and he ended up forcing out Johjima. So from a runner on second with no outs Tigers had gone to a runner on first with two outs. Mayumi's management of the innings had been inappropriate to say the least. Yamato (pinch running for Kanemoto then moving to second) then stole second which caused Dragons to deliberately walk Shunsuke Fujikawa to get at Nohmi. He duly struck out swinging and Tigers had wasted a chance though it was the bench to blame not the players. Nohmi got Araki and Hidenori with ease but then facing Morino was a bit loose with his third pitch. Morino hit hard and deep into the left stand for a solo home run 3-1 Tigers. Wada hit to left and the Dragons fans started their chance march seeing something marvelous as happening. Nohmi dashed these hopes getting Koike to line out to third to end the innings. Tigers were still comfortable.
Tigers seventh was led off by Murton. Again he faced Yoshimi and this time despatched his first pitch beautifully into the left stand for a solo home run 4-1 Tigers and hit 200. One would have thought that there would have been a presentation of some sort but no - nothing. Hirano hit to second where N. Donoue fielded but somehow messed up the throw and he was safe on first. Toritani hit to left and Tigers had runners on first and third with no outs. A sacrifice fly beckoned. Arai messed up and flew out to second and then Ochiai decided to play musical pitchers. Kobayashi was first, facing Brazell he struck him out. Then came Suzuki who faced Johjima. Johjima now hits exclusively to left for all his scoring shots and his drive along the third baseline was intercepted by Morino whose throw beat the Tigers catcher to first to end the innings. Nohmi returned for Dragons seventh and retired the batters in order. In Tigers eighth pitched by HIrai, Yamato led off with a hit - a lucky affair. He was bunted to second by Shunsuke Fujikawa and reached third on Hiyama's (pinch hitter) ground out. Murton was next and with a mighty swing bounced one off the top of the wall for what was initially ruled a home run. Ochiai came out to query it and the umpires went to video. Eventually they decided it was an entitled two base hit which still brought Yamato home 5-1 Tigers, runner on second. Hirano managed to hit to first for the innings ending ground out. Dragons eighth was pitched by Kubota who started well getting T. Donoue (pinch hitter) to line out. Araki walked but Hidenori flew out to right. Kubota then threw a pass ball which took Araki to second but didn't really look troubled and got Morino to fly out comfortably to left to end the innings. Tigers ninth was pitched by Shimizu who rapidly ran into trouble. Arai hit and Donoue fielded the ball but then fell down tryng to throw and Arai was safe on first. A wild pitch took him to second and then Brazell hit nicely past first into right for a timely hit 6-1 Tigers, runner on first. Johjima grounded out to first taking Uemoto (pinch running for Brazell) to second and then a wild pitch took Uemoto to third. Another chance beckoned but this time Yamato lined out to short to deny its fulfilment. Kyuji Fujikawa pitched Dragons ninth and started by striking out Wada. He then dead balled Koike on the back of his left shoulder, Koike making far too much of a meal of the impact. It wasn't that bad. Nomoto (pinch hitter) grounded out to first taking Koike to second. This brought up Fujii who was induced to strike out and end the game. Tigers victory.
Even though this victory reduced the gap between the Tigers and Dragons to 2.5 games realistically the Dragons are pretty certain to win the pennant. Tigers only have themselves to blame losing crucial series through carless play. The Murton counter is now off as he achieved the goal. Toritani still has five RBIs to go for 100. Let's hope he can make them.