Brothers and Fathers
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Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: torakichi | Posted: Apr 28, 2003 11:37 AM
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Nagashima Sr. and Jr. are equally bad at acting.
Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: westbaystars | Posted: Apr 28, 2003 1:56 PM
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Ah, but to most, "Mister" is very entertaining. To others, his "endearing" mystique is simply annoying.
Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Apr 28, 2003 12:10 PM
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In the 1970s and early '80s there were the Matsunuma brothers who both pitched for the Lions, and in the late 1980s and early '90s there were the Tomashino brothers who played outfield/infield for the Lions (older brother) and Swallows (younger brother). They played against each other in the Japan Series in 1992 and '93.
Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: Animaru Resulie | Posted: Apr 29, 2003 6:35 AM
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Let's not forget the infamous Katsuya Nomura and his catcher son Katsunori (plus, his other son, Dan Nomura, the infamous agent). I feel for the guy. Who would like to see their seventy year old mom poise in front of the nation in lingerie.
Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: torakichi | Posted: Apr 30, 2003 9:36 AM
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You can bet Katsunori took some stick for that! Katsunori has done some good work for Hanshin: a sayonara hit here, a HR there. But apart from the fact that he will never beat Yano or Noguchi to the regular catcher's spot, he will always be looked upon as the guy who got his job because Daddy was kantoku at the time.
At the end of the 2001 season, Okada coach (was kantoku of the farm team at the time) said he wanted to transform Katsunori into a pinch hitter to take over for Yagi when he retires. I only saw Katsunori once after that: it was a Hanshin vs. Kintetsu farm game at Fujiidera last year. Katsunori came out as a pinch hitter and... hit a HR!
At the end of the 2001 season, Okada coach (was kantoku of the farm team at the time) said he wanted to transform Katsunori into a pinch hitter to take over for Yagi when he retires. I only saw Katsunori once after that: it was a Hanshin vs. Kintetsu farm game at Fujiidera last year. Katsunori came out as a pinch hitter and... hit a HR!
Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: seiyu | Posted: Apr 30, 2003 11:44 PM
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Leon and Leron are, without a doubt, the greatest brothers who ever played in NPB. The greatest Japanese brothers who played in NPB are the 4 Noguchi brothers:
- Akira Noguchi (pitcher/catcher) 1936-1955
(Senators, Taiyo, Nishitetsu, Hankyu, Chunichi)
Career: 1326 games, 61 hr, 572 rbi, 0.251 avg. - Jiro Noguchi (pitcher/OF) 1939-1953 (Senators, Tsubasa, Taiyo, Nishitetsu, Hankyu)
Career: 237 wins 139 loss, 1.96 era.
One of the greatest pitchers in NPB history.
Member of Japanese Hall of Fame. Recorded 40 wins one season. Also lifetime BA of 0.248, recorded 31 games hitting streak. - Noboru Noguchi (3B/SS) 1941-1943
(Hanshin)
Career: 219 games, 0.181 avg.
Died in the Philippines during WWII. - Wataru Noguchi (2B) 1944 and 1946
(Kinki)
Career: 26 games, 0.143 avg.
Re: Brothers and Fathers
[ Author: Guest: Gary Garland | Posted: May 2, 2003 1:36 PM
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Two of the Kaneda brothers, Masaichi and Tomehiro, where pretty successful. If I'm not mistaken, two or three other Kaneda brothers played in the Japanese leagues, but made very little impact.
There was also the guy who started the Toei Flyers (now Nippon Ham; he is in the Hall of Fame) who had two or three younger brothers who played at the same time, but none of them really had that much of an impact on the playing field.
And for what it's worth, Hisashi Iwakuma is the son in law of one of Seibu's batting instructors.
There was also the guy who started the Toei Flyers (now Nippon Ham; he is in the Hall of Fame) who had two or three younger brothers who played at the same time, but none of them really had that much of an impact on the playing field.
And for what it's worth, Hisashi Iwakuma is the son in law of one of Seibu's batting instructors.
Hiroshima's Kuroda and ???
[ Author: Guest | Posted: May 3, 2003 11:04 PM
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I was watching the game between the Yomiuri Giants and the Hiroshima Carp today, and I got a glimpse of a caption while Hiroshima ace Kuroda was pitching. What I got out of it, with my little Japanese reading abilities, was that Kuroda's father had once played for the Yomiuri Giants. Kuroda is definely one of the better pitchers in the league, and I think he has thrown the most complete games the last couple of years. Anybody know anything about his father and how good (or bad) he was?
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A couple of years ago, the Iriki brothers of Giants and Swallows both pitched wonderfully. Have there been any other brothers who have been successful in the past?
When I think about fathers and sons, the two pairs that come to mind immediately are Yomiuri Giants great Shigeo Nagashima and his son Kazushige, and former Hanshin manager Katsuya Nomura and his son Katsunori. However, both sons' abilities were not even close to the abilities of their fathers, if not worse than most of the farm team players.